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sungam
May 9, 2012, 11:33 AM
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healyje wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: For me the only time 'onsight' can relate to anything else then a clean lead, no falls or beta is in the gym. Onsight?!? The fucking holds are colored!!! Maybe if you were colorblind I could see this justification. Well, I don't know, outside ( unless it's an onsight FA) then about 90% of the time you're talking about your basic climb-by-the-dots job and is that really all that different...? 
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surfstar
May 9, 2012, 3:09 PM
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Colinhoglund wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: For me the only time 'onsight' can relate to anything else then a clean lead, no falls or beta is in the gym. Onsight?!? The fucking holds are colored!!! Maybe if you were colorblind I could see this justification. You clearly take yourself too seriously. Its the gym, its just a poor substitute for the real thing. No argument, outdoor onsights are by far more esteemed. (ps. even with the holds taped you still have to figure the moves out)
No, complete opposite - I'm pointing out the absurdity of the weight that some people put into these terms.
I believe a good-style onsight doesn't involve a guidebook or a pre-known grade.
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granite_grrl
May 9, 2012, 3:18 PM
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surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: For me the only time 'onsight' can relate to anything else then a clean lead, no falls or beta is in the gym. Onsight?!? The fucking holds are colored!!! Maybe if you were colorblind I could see this justification. You clearly take yourself too seriously. Its the gym, its just a poor substitute for the real thing. No argument, outdoor onsights are by far more esteemed. (ps. even with the holds taped you still have to figure the moves out) No, complete opposite - I'm pointing out the absurdity of the weight that some people put into these terms. I believe a good-style onsight doesn't involve a guidebook or a pre-known grade.
Will you also be naked with a watermelon tied around your waist?
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notapplicable
May 9, 2012, 4:45 PM
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healyje wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: For me the only time 'onsight' can relate to anything else then a clean lead, no falls or beta is in the gym. Onsight?!? The fucking holds are colored!!! Maybe if you were colorblind I could see this justification. Well, I don't know, outside ( unless it's an onsight FA) then about 90% of the time you're talking about your basic climb-by-the-dots job and is that really all that different...?
It might all be a wash in the end. Those chalked holds and tick marks can offer some pretty terrible beta sometimes.
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notapplicable
May 9, 2012, 4:46 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: surfstar wrote: Colinhoglund wrote: For me the only time 'onsight' can relate to anything else then a clean lead, no falls or beta is in the gym. Onsight?!? The fucking holds are colored!!! Maybe if you were colorblind I could see this justification. You clearly take yourself too seriously. Its the gym, its just a poor substitute for the real thing. No argument, outdoor onsights are by far more esteemed. (ps. even with the holds taped you still have to figure the moves out) No, complete opposite - I'm pointing out the absurdity of the weight that some people put into these terms. I believe a good-style onsight doesn't involve a guidebook or a pre-known grade. Will you also be naked with a watermelon tied around your waist?
I would pay money to see that.
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