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Ascent Notes for: Rhetoric - 5.12a Average Rating = 3.56/5 Average Rating : 3.56/5

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  Difficulty 5.12a
  Safety Rating G
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: weldhalcyon on 2013-08-28 (View Climbing Log)

3 out of 5 stars Breakthrough route

This was my first 5.12. Thin moves at bottom followed by jug haul with good rest to a 3-move crux on greasy slopers.

Added: 2013-09-18

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.12a
  Safety Rating G
Red Point Red Point ascent by: jlee91 on 2013-08-07 (View Climbing Log)

3 out of 5 stars Want to bag a 12a?

Pretty chill 12a, 11 climbing to a solid rest then bouldery sequence to the chains. Churl.

Added: 2013-08-07

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  Difficulty
  Safety Rating G
Red Point Red Point ascent by: ematter on 2012-12-15 (View Climbing Log)

3 out of 5 stars Rhetoric

This was my first 12a, though many think it's not 12a. It may be height dependent. My first time sending this route was with a different beta than I use now. It was harder with long moves and compressiony. Now I use a beta with an undercling to gaston on what most other's pinch. Couldn't get the pinch to work - might be lack of armspan.

Added: 2013-06-27

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.11d
  Safety Rating G
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: trevorcgray on 2013-05-18 (View Climbing Log)

4 out of 5 stars Fun and easy 12

Easiest 12a in the park, if it weren't for the crux move at the top, I'd call it an 11b/c. Mucho fun.

Added: 2013-05-18

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.11d
  Safety Rating G
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: jb2100 on 2013-03-02 (View Climbing Log)

3 out of 5 stars Soft

Pretty soft for the grade. Only one semi-difficult move on it.

Added: 2013-03-02

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.12a
  Safety Rating PG13
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: hawaii_climbing_guy on 2012-10-13 (View Climbing Log)

4 out of 5 stars Rhetorick - 5.12a

fun climb with a variety of thin moves

Added: 2012-10-13

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.12a
  Safety Rating G
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: annette on 2011-03-15 (View Climbing Log)

5 out of 5 stars Love this climb

This is my first 12a red point. It is a climb that compliments my climbing style...thin.

The climb starts with thin crimps and moves into some jugs. The top crux is tricky. It may be easier for taller people. The crux consists of a weird undercling to a sloper and pinch. Fun moves.

Added: 2012-01-17

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.12a
  Safety Rating G
Red Point Red Point ascent by: nosferatu87 on 2010-12-11 (View Climbing Log)

3 out of 5 stars .

Possibly the easiest 12a in the park for tall people.

Added: 2011-01-03

Ratings
  Difficulty 5.11c
  Safety Rating G
  Exposure
  Rock Quality
  Scenery
  Fun Factor
Red Point Red Point ascent by: kvochatzer on 2010-07-31 (View Climbing Log)

4 out of 5 stars thin and vertical... the way I like my climbs

Nice route that goes from few and thin features to jugs then an overhanging bulge with a very thin hand up top. Very fun climbing now that it's dry (had tried to work this when wet Fall 09, but it was just too wet).

Second 5.12a in Austin and 5th overall (even though it feels soft to me).

Oh, and there were no loose rocks.

Added: 2010-07-31

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Red Point Red Point ascent by: stardrivin on 2003-02-02 (View Climbing Log)

0 out of 5 stars Ascent Note

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Added: 2003-02-02

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