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pappy


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thats pretty low. everyone has a chance to learn to climb. chill with it bro.


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majid_sabet wrote:
Is this proper for TR?

I am trying to rig it this weekend and do some outdoor TR but not sure if I got all of them in the right format, help me please

Thanks

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You are obviously using a radial and an all season one at that. Gawd Ur gonna die NOOB!


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tradrenn


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See, if you made that about wannabee's I would agree with you.

n00bs are OK

therefore

STFU n00b !!!


the_leech


Mar 29, 2007, 8:21 PM
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Thank you all for the feedback. I’m glad that my ideas have generated such a lively discussion. Some of your comments are worthy of a direct response.


"salamanizer” wrote:
Maybe someone should have killed you.

I welcome your constructive comment. Hussein’s Al-Harris Al-Jamhuri (the Republican Guard, as you know it) tried that back in 1991. And, well, you know the outcome of that.



"rockguide” wrote:
Let the door hit your ass on the way out

Of course. How silly of me, n00bguide. I didn’t even consider how my plans would detract from your client base. Sorry. Maybe now you’ll have to go out and get a real job.



"climbsomething” wrote:
xoxo

Hey now! xoxo right back at you!



"bent_gate” wrote:
Well, this is a classic example of what happens when our climbing community doesn’t take the time to implement a comprehensive 'n00b Management Plan'...

I truly appreciate the effort and thought you put into your response. It seems that you have the organizational abilities and leadership skills to head this effort. Are you interested?

Our movement needs a strong leader. I'm more of an idea man.



"jt512” wrote:
That has a nice ring to it. It should be worked into a signature, t-shirt, bumper sticker, or something.

“Carry the attitude of discouragement wherever you go” is not trademarked, nor do I plan to make it so. You all are welcome to use this phrase for any purpose, even your rc.com sig.



"caughtinside” wrote:
I really need to introduce more hot chicks to climbing. No, you don't understand, I NEED this man, so DON"T BLOW IT FOR ME. Please. I'm begging you. I won't take anyone else, I promise.

You’re absolutely right. This was just an oversight on my part. After many years happily married, I forget these sorts of things. Thankfully, this is a work in process and your concerns will certainly be addressed in the final product. Bent_gate, are you taking note of this? Make sure we include this exemption in The Plan.



"bbentley77” wrote:

Maybe if you could climb harder than 5.10 after all those years you've been climbing, you wouldn't be on the same routes as said noobs in the first place.

n00b, after you’ve been climbing more than four months, you might learn that even 5.11 climbers like to enjoy a classic 5.8 line once in a while, or may want to warm up by running laps on some of the popular 9s and easy 10s.

Geez. I just broke one of my own rules. Let me rephrase that: “STFU n00b!”



"girl_lostInVA” wrote:
you should definitely have a special exemption for attractive girls and hot chick noobs...always take them climbing

Your concerns have already been noted. I think this is a popular sentiment.



"Power_Tie” wrote:
wow, what a very poor and dangerous attitude you have. I hope you get help for that.

Good to see you around again, Mr. Tie. You’re a good man. BTW, have you been in touch with Gabe lately? I wonder how he’s doing.



"bigfatrock” wrote:
1. So your telling me you were never a n00b? You just woke up one morning with the ability to climb 5.14 and had all knowledge of climbing innate withing you?

Your powers of deduction amaze me, Einstein. Now, I’d say “STFU n00b!” but I think that phrase will become trite if overused in this thread.



"devils_advocate” wrote:
Good work Leech, laid it all out for us in black and white. I’m proud to say, I have yet to actually be of any help what so ever on this site, so I know I’m doing my part.

Furthermore, I have already begun developing some anti-n00b devices.

Devil, please see bent_gate about your ideas. He can incorporate them into The Plan.

Well, there are many more wonderful comments I’d like to respond to, but I have pressing obligations outside of this site so I must be moving on.

Keep up the great discussion! I’ll check back tomorrow and see how it’s going.


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4 lyfe!

"I'd let him ropegun bloodlet for me anytime!"


kyleshea


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effin hilarious leech


miavzero


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Let us be thankful for the noobs,
but for them, none of us would be entertained.


sgauss


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macblaze wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
Is this proper for TR?

I am trying to rig it this weekend and do some outdoor TR but not sure if I got all of them in the right format, help me please

Thanks

[URL=http://imageshack.us]
[image]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5839/screenhunter002wo9.gif[/Image]

You are obviously using a radial and an all season one at that. Gawd Ur gonna die NOOB!

Worse, I think that tire is cross-loaded. Better check it for microfractures!


bbentley77


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n00b, after you’ve been climbing more than four months, you might learn that even 5.11 climbers like to enjoy a classic 5.8 line once in a while, or may want to warm up by running laps on some of the popular 9s and easy 10s.

Well than it looks like all the n00bs need to band together and take action. The next time you’re on a n00b route (pansy) and a bunch of greasy, hairy, stinkin, stark nekkid n00bs mysteriously come out of the wood work flinging poo, screaming like monkeys, swinging from rap lines, rubbing their big, greasy balls in your face and pissing on your head from above, you’ll know what it’s about. The n00bs r rollin t00 DEEEEEEP!!! Oh yes… muuuuuaaah ahahahahah… and there won't be a damn thing you can do about it nancy.... muuuuuaaaaahhhh ahahahah HOHOHOHOHOHO HEHEHEHEHHE....


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dlintz wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
Is this proper for TR?

I am trying to rig it this weekend and do some outdoor TR but not sure if I got all of them in the right format, help me please

Thanks

[URL=http://imageshack.us]

Just double up all your biners and you'll be set, you should probably double up those pulleys also. Wink

d.

and if the tire is on a car and not just ...laying on the ground, make sure the lugs are tight.


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majid_sabet wrote:
Is this proper for TR?

I am trying to rig it this weekend and do some outdoor TR but not sure if I got all of them in the right format, help me please

Thanks

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5839/screenhunter002wo9.gif[/IMG]

Majid just make sure you wear a helmet and you'll be fine.


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sactownclimber wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
Is this proper for TR?

I am trying to rig it this weekend and do some outdoor TR but not sure if I got all of them in the right format, help me please

Thanks

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/5839/screenhunter002wo9.gif[/IMG]

Majid just make sure you wear a helmet and you'll be fine.

You make fun of me, yaaaa, you think it is funny you n00b
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the_chris


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Everybody has the right to climb. Its a great way to make new friends.

Every question asked here makes a begginer safer. Tell yourself that your answer could save that person's life. Trust me...I have taught climbing at my local gym. So far, the people that I have trained did not injure themselves or kill themselves.

My last question is do you remember the first time you climbed?


jt512


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the_chris wrote:
Trust me...I have taught climbing at my local gym.

And that, my friends, is rc.com in a nutshell.

Jay


miavzero


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the_chris wrote:
Everybody has the right to climb. Its a great way to make new friends.


or enemiesWink

the_chris wrote:
So far, the people that I have trained did not injure themselves or kill themselves.

you should try my profession


the_leech


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the_chris wrote:
Every question asked here makes a begginer safer.

Really? Have you actually read any of the answers?


the_chris wrote:
Tell yourself that your answer could save that person's life.

See above.


the_chris wrote:
Trust me...I have taught climbing at my local gym.

Teaching climbing at a gym. Hmmm… That's like teaching skydiving by jumping off a stepstool.


the_chris wrote:
So far, the people that I have trained did not injure themselves or kill themselves.

Good for you. I’m sure that will change if they actually start climbing.


the_chris wrote:
My last question is do you remember the first time you climbed?

Why yes, I do. Strangely enough, I did it without some gym n00b’s instruction or internet forums -- Yet I still managed to survive.

Gotta run. Have a great weekend everyone!


drunkenhighball


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super-mega-ultra-hyper-mega troll!!! that's right, double mega.


curt


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the_chris wrote:
Trust me...I have taught climbing at my local gym. So far, the people that I have trained did not injure themselves or kill themselves.

Do they know how to get off the ground yet?

Curt


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bbentley77 wrote:
The next time you’re on a n00b route (pansy) and a bunch of greasy, hairy, stinkin, stark nekkid n00bs mysteriously come out of the wood work flinging poo, screaming like monkeys, swinging from rap lines, rubbing their big, greasy balls in your face and pissing on your head from above, you’ll know what it’s about.

That is quite possibly the most horrifying image I've ever been exposed to...


kixx


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CULL THE PRICKS!!!

I was just going to post a new thread about the inappropriate and harmful attitude toward aspiring climbers... This post has gone far beyond the negative attitude I thought was possible. It is truly unbelievable that this kind of behavior is even thought to be funny by some. And before anyone tells me to "lighten up - we're just having a little fun, bla blah" get out from behind the veil of animosity you all hide behind and think of the harm you are doing the climbing community.

Even the use of the term n00b has become derogatory and unacceptable. If you have to degrade others on the internet who are interested in doing something that you do, you must really have some inferiority issues. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP

Anyone who has been anything less than helpful to a beginning climber has done nothing but harm the climbing community. I'm begging everyone here at RC.com to please isolate these pricks and strongly discourage them from making these opinions public.

In fact I am encouraging everyone to crowd the pricks favorite climbs, throw ropes on their heads without warning, ask them annoying questions like "why don't you have any peetoons?", and even climb with them, because they hate climbing with people who don't share the same ideas.

When it comes down to brass tax the climbing pricks are small, scared, little people, who need to rag on anyone seen as inferior to them no matter how temporarily that situation might be. Pricks like this ruined a big part of my life.... see this thread for the full story:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...;;page=unread#unread

CULL THE PRICKS!!!

Pricks - Before you think about flaming me get out from behind your animosity


kixx


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Oh, and if there are any new climbers out there who would like to learn more about the sport of rock, ice, and alpine, climbing or mountaineering please let me know.

i am willing to go well out of my way to spend time with beginners to make sure they don't fall into the trap of becoming pricks - i'll climb with anybody but a prick


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kixx wrote:
CULL THE PRICKS!!!

CULL THE PRICKS!!!

Pricks - Before you think about flaming me get out from behind your animosity

Uhhhhhh... Your gentle and persuasive manner has convinced me...I guess...I mean at least I'm not afraid of you...Like, no more so than any other psychotic personality...

Take a pill dude. The world is full of a$$holes; think of them as free entertainment.


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I can't wait for the day you are a jerk to the wrong person at the local crags, and that person pulls your punk card and beats your ass for being such as asshole.


Rocknovice


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the_leech wrote:
Maybe we shouldn’t kill them directly, but we’ve got to do something about the influx of n00bs that increases exponentially every day.

I know we’ve all done this at least once... There’s a nice guy at work who says that he wants to come climbing some time. So you take him outside, show him the ropes, and have a good time. But what have you really done? You’ve created another n00b, that’s what.

Maybe you’ve seriously responded to an rc.com thread with a question like, “How do I make a toprope anchor?” You offered friendly, helpful advice and went on feeling good about yourself. Meanwhile, all you’ve done is support a n00b and encouraged him to climb more.

Have you noticed how the crags get more crowded each year? Are you tired of the throngs dominating popular routes with topropes all day?

Have you noticed how much more frequently you top out, only to see a n00b on a route near you scrambling to hook up a funky, sketchy anchor that would have been a straightforward setup for anyone with even a modicum of experience?

Do you live in fear of having to partake in yet another rescue because some clueless leader and his incompetent belayer come tumbling down and ruin your day?

There’s a solution, people. Listen up.

1. Stop taking new people climbing. Maybe you do it to be nice, find new partners, or perhaps you just feel better about yourself if you climb with less-experienced people. I don’t care what the reason is. Knock it off! There are enough climbers here now, and plenty of partners to go around. Pull from the existing pool.

2. Ask rc.com to ban the Beginner’s Forum altogether. If that is not acceptable, the administrators should at least establish an auto-delete function for all thread titles that start with “How do I…” and “What shoes…” and other frequently used n00b titles.

3. Stop encouraging n00bs online. These online forums seem to be the primary way that gym n00bs develop the “experience” to venture outdoors. I know it’s our nature to be helpful, but this has to stop. Respond to all n00b questions with “STFU n00b!” That’s it. Say no more.

4. Carry the attitude of discouragement wherever you go. If you see some n00b giving a bad belay or struggling up a route with poor technique, refrain from giving helpful advice. Let them struggle or drop their n00b partner. Cull the n00bs. That’s what this is all about. Just be sure to move away from them so you don’t have to waste your day involved in a n00b rescue or recovery.

5. Boycott climbing gyms. This is a big sacrifice, I know. Especially if you live in an area without year-round outdoor climbing. But you know as well as I do that climbing gyms are the biggest producers of n00bs nowadays.

6. If you must use a climbing gym, refer to #4. In fact, feel free to be a dick to the n00bs you meet there. Make them feel unwelcome, perhaps even threatened. This attitude (called “localism” among surfers) is effective at keeping gumbies off the good surf breaks. We need to carry this attitude into climbing as well.

Some may wonder how you identify a n00b. If you have to ask this question, you likely are one of them. So STFU and find a new way to spend your free time!

These are just a few suggestions off the top of my head. I’d love to hear other suggestions and ideas. The important thing is that we work together to address this problem. We must cull the n00bs. The quality of our climbing future is at stake.

Don't feed the trolls.


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chads93gt wrote:
I can't wait for the day you are a jerk to the wrong person at the local crags, and that person pulls your punk card and beats your ass for being such as asshole.

I assure you the leech is completely harmless... it's a joke man. It just makes it funnier when people get all pissed Laugh. Sorry for blowing the cover leech, but I am confident someone will still come along and completely disregard what I have said replying to your post all bent.... making it even funnier Laugh... I mean I feel bad for these people, so I try to help..... but some people just can't be helped. Oh look, here comes one of the lost and hopeless, in T-minus.... 10…..9….


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