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jt512


May 29, 2009, 2:34 AM
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He's peddling a panacea. You can use the same technique to get laid more often, climb harder, and do whatever else he can think of that extract money from gullible people.

http://www.meetup.com/charmistry-philly/

Jay


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First, thank you onceahardman. Very interesting.

- Several invitations to contact him (especially by phone) without identifying info.
- dating and relationship (with >2 people) sessions (seminars? speed dating?) definitely translate into climbing & physical performance...oh, wait.
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difference between what I teach and quackery is that, as opposed to the hippie dippy, positive affirmation, bullshit that those guys teach, there's a system to my madness,
Wait - I thought that the quacks had a system (and madness) too.
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Another way to put it would be that if you've ever had one of those moments when you've been in the zone, there's a way you were carrying yourself
Interesting, I've had moments where I'm in the zone in other fields ... and it has more to do with focusing in those areas, being focused, not having distractions....and not very much to do with physical carriage. God knows I've sat in the same poor postural position and not been in the zone.
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Another huge component of all of this is bran network functions and how, if one of networks 1-6 is being misused, symptoms will often appear in one's climbing. And this is very common. This misuse often stems from a traumatic event in childhood, which is very common in our society.
Sorry to anyone who is going to savage me for this, but I understand that this is a tenet in L.Ron Hubbard's view of impediments to human development.
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To give you an example, until about 15 years ago, a common practice amongst midwives was to cut the umbilical cord too soon, thus making a child's first breath painful -- a traumatic event -- and thereby slightly impede breathing going forward.
So, the perception that we have more people with asthma now than then... Or am I wrong about this?
- I fully agree with onceahardman - 100% is bogus. Especially for something involved in athletic or psychological performance. And especially for a product that "is not developed yet."

Drat - and here I was hoping that I'd take a magic pill & be able to climb 5.14 tomorrow (provided I paid for overnight shipping).


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jt512 wrote:
He's peddling a panacea. You can use the same technique to get laid more often, climb harder, and do whatever else he can think of that extract money from gullible people.

http://www.meetup.com/charmistry-philly/

Jay

Wait - what?????!!!


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onceahardman wrote:

Try selling your products elsewhere. You will be rightfully flamed here. You have talked about many things your system is not. You have provided no detail about what it is.

People always have and always will buy snake oil.


milesenoell


Jun 1, 2009, 4:14 AM
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To give you an example, until about 15 years ago, a common practice amongst midwives was to cut the umbilical cord too soon, thus making a child's first breath painful -- a traumatic event -- and thereby slightly impede breathing going forward. One of many examples.


Be well,
Peter

I'm sorry but I just gotta grab this one, cause you don't seem to quite have your facts straight.

Babies start breathing before their umbilical cord is cut. While it is true that modern midwifes have shown health benefits to waiting until the cord stops pulsing to cut (more like 15 minutes instead of the 5 typical of standard hospital births) this has nothing to do with breathing, it's about blood volume. Breathing is always established before the cord is cut.

(my wife is midwife)


glytch


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"onceahardman wrote:
Well, Peter, it seems you have opened the door regarding making the content of pm's public . I have communicated with Peter on the private side a bit, and if anybody's interested, I'll put the contents here. If it's time to let it die, I'll leave it alone.

I typically respect your opinion and paborden does sound like he's selling a bridge coated in snake-oil... but your subsequent emails crossed a line that he, as best I can tell, did not: publishing others' pms. Specifically, he published a message which he sent to you as an offer to discuss things further. It's pretty clear to me that this does not constitute "opening the door regarding making the contents of pms public." While he may be publishing an IM, it is the first IM he sent to you, and contains absolutely no sensitive information.

It's a big step from his publication of that message (which, again, is one that he wrote and sent to you) to your posting of a fairly extensive correspondence. You may think this guy's a snake-oil salesman, and frankly that's the obvious thing to think, given his posts, but you gave away the moral high ground when you tried to justify posting a bunch of private correspondence with the rationale that "he opened the door."


onceahardman


Jun 1, 2009, 11:29 AM
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glytch wrote:
"onceahardman wrote:
Well, Peter, it seems you have opened the door regarding making the content of pm's public . I have communicated with Peter on the private side a bit, and if anybody's interested, I'll put the contents here. If it's time to let it die, I'll leave it alone.

I typically respect your opinion and paborden does sound like he's selling a bridge coated in snake-oil... but your subsequent emails crossed a line that he, as best I can tell, did not: publishing others' pms. Specifically, he published a message which he sent to you as an offer to discuss things further. It's pretty clear to me that this does not constitute "opening the door regarding making the contents of pms public." While he may be publishing an IM, it is the first IM he sent to you, and contains absolutely no sensitive information.

It's a big step from his publication of that message (which, again, is one that he wrote and sent to you) to your posting of a fairly extensive correspondence. You may think this guy's a snake-oil salesman, and frankly that's the obvious thing to think, given his posts, but you gave away the moral high ground when you tried to justify posting a bunch of private correspondence with the rationale that "he opened the door."

Peter published the contents of a PM to jt512, not to me. I'm not sure if you are a lawyer (I am not, but I have been to court several times).

I respect your opinion, but this business of "opening the door" to private communication is, I think, pretty straightforward.

It's less important what his publication contained, and more important that he published a PM of any kind.

If a lawyer out there says I'm wrong, fine, I'll take the permanant banning or whatever the punishment is. I think I did the right thing. I think the law would come down on my side here.


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Partner macherry


Jun 14, 2009, 11:00 PM
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Public posting of PMs is not against TOS or forum rules. It's generally looked upon as bad form.

remember kids, it's the internet and just like e-mails, private messages cannot be taken back once they're out there.


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onceahardman


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macherry wrote:
Public posting of PMs is not against TOS or forum rules. It's generally looked upon as bad forum.

remember kids, it's the internet and just like e-mails, private messages cannot be taken back once they're out there.

I agree, macherry, posting of PMs is bad "form".

Generally.

I made a judgement call for one particular instance. I still think that in this particular instance, it was necessary to shine some light, to make the cockroaches scatter.

Some thought it good, others not. I apologize to those whom I caused to take offense.

EDIT: I have received over 4 pages pf PMs, mostly on the subject of injuries. Clearly, making them public is not something I do on a regular basis.


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Partner macherry


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oops, form. not forum...it's been a long weekend


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Completely Asinine Metaphysical Poop

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